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In Jewish folklore, she is Adam's first wife. But her roots are much older – an Assyrian she-demon, a serpent goddess, queen of the underworld.
In astrology, confusion reigns. There are three Liliths - an asteroid, a mean Lilith and the Dark Moon Lilith. It is the latter to which most authors are actually referring. In your chart this will appear as a black crescent moon with a cross below.
But what does Lilith mean in the chart? Does she show independence, darkness, or repressed anger? Does she show a lack, an emptiness, as some writers have suggested? Or maybe obsession, voraciousness?
On a wet and blowy evening this week, my local astrology group met to investigate. None of us felt we had come to grips with the real meaning of Lilith yet. Nothing any of us had read really resonated. So we thought we'd look at a lot of charts and see what came up.
The results were... a) horrid...
We started with a hunch - in the charts of men, could she represent a problem with women. We looked at some serial killers, and immediately the correlation was clear – Ted Bundy (Moon conjunct Lilith), Peter Sutcliffe (Lilith Rising), Fred West (Lilith in the 7th (his victims) inconjunct Neptune (fantasy)). Then there's the child killer, an embodiment of one face of Lilith surely, Myra Hindly (Lilith in the first conjunct Venus). But I don't want to dwell on them. Suffice to say, a prominent Lilith isn't going to make you a serial killer, but serial killers may well have prominent Lilith.
and b) intriguing...
We took some false turns and found some charts which seemed to have very little Lilith action. Wallis Simpson, for example. You'd think the so-called femme fatale who stole the prince away would have some Lilith action, but not really.
Just as we were winding up, someone had one last thought. If criminals have strong Lilith, what about crime writers? Agatha Christie has her Part of Fortune conjunct Lilith: she made a fortune out of her. And then it was time to go home, but it set me thinking.
When I got back, I started looking at the darkest crime writers I could think of – bingo. All of the following aspects are very close, unless I point out otherwise.
Ruth Rendell and Patricia Highsmith, mistresses of the psychological thriller, both have Mercury (mind) conjunct Lilith. Stieg Larsson, whose heroine is surely an embodiment of the archetype, and whose gory descriptions of rape and mutilation turn the reader into a voyeur, has Lilith in Libra sandwiched between Neptune (imagination) and Venus (women). Lilith's on that midpoint. Elmore Leonard: Lilith conjunct the North Node. Arthur Conan Doyle? Lilith conjunct the Moon, trine the Sun and applying to the MC.
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Edgar Allan Poe has Lilith in the 7th (no surprises there then). She's trine his Sun and Mercury in the third – a little wide at five degrees but close enough.
So how about a criminal who became an author and wrote about his life of thievery. Jean Genet has Lilith on the MC conjunct Mars. And the other French outsider, Albert Camus, who practically invented anomie? On the descendant trine Neptune.
You're beginning to get the picture. Lilith is right in there.
So how about writers whose subject is the wilder shores of emotion or the darker corners of the mind?. Emily Brontë, say. Isn't Heathcliff a kind of male Lilith – outcast, vengeful, dark? Lilith is in her 7th house of the other, in Gemini, one of the writers' signs, ruled by Mercury. She sextiles Mercury and opposes Neptune (imagination again).
Robert Louis Stephenson (creator of Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde): Lilith dead on the Ascendant, square Mercury, trine Jupiter
Thomas Hardy (creator of Tess – outcast, over-sexed, wonderful) Sun opposite Lilith
Scott Fitzgerald (married and inspired by crazy, wonderful Zelda) Lilith opposite Venus-Mercury
Jack Kerouac (I like the crazy ones) Lilith conjunct Uranus in Pisces (the drink killed him, but Lilith and oblivion is another post.)
So to understand Lilith, we can read fiction. Lilith is Heathcliff, she is the Talented Mr Ripley, she is Tess of the D'Urbervilles. She is a wild, dark part of the human soul, but without her our imaginations would be so much duller. She is the outsider that all writers need to be in order to see the world with fresh eyes.
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I have Lilith conjunct my moon. Both trine my MC.
ReplyDeleteMaybe I should turn to Mistery Writing... huummm *considering it*
I did, just to add something to your research, create a fictional character who is Wilde and can not be tamed: an old man flying around in an umbrella spitting at little children and saying the truth about what he sees (my Lilith is in Sag).
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So - this is quite interesting.
I wish I had an astrology study group as well. Maybe I should just start one.
Cheers******
That sounds pretty Lilithy to me! Wow.
ReplyDeleteI think we can get carried away by the fact that she's a she in the myth, whereas in the charts she seems to be wildness.
You'd have been in good company in our group - two Lilith Moon conjunctions - and it did seem to have a connection with lack of children, or simply feeling a lack of children.
My astro-study group is fab. I joined when I moved here & find it's really helped me develop my ideas. Especially since it's run on very Aquarian lines.
Remember the Kray twins - Lilith rising. It seemed that evening that one of the keys was an aspect from Neptune, which lent fantasy to Lilith's repressed urges. Are you going to post again about the feminists?
ReplyDeleteI hesitate to confess to having Lilith conjunct Saturn in Scorpio opposing Moon square Pluto opposing Mercury… a grand cross. I’ve endured enough dark nights of the soul to empathize with those trapped there. And, as a fan of the Very Talented Pat Highsmith with her Sun conjunct Lilith, I venture she was rather dark herself. Absolutely an outsider - I can relate.
ReplyDeleteHaving come to writing later in life, I find the icky bits unnervingly easy and the uplifting (which I prefer) laborious. Am I resisting the easy path? You betcha! It goes nowhere you’d want to dwell.
BTW, my longterm partner’s Sun nestles cozily between my Saturn and Lilith… we have no children.
Thank you, Christina, for getting me thinking about the mysterious Lilith and gaining a better appreciation of the energy - intense, unashamedly uncommon, wilful (won'tful?)and attention-grabbing... whether we like it or not.Juicy... very juicy.
@prospera - like all those planetary energies, Lilith can be used for good or ill.
ReplyDeleteBut personally, I've only just started to get a handle on it. Ah the uses of fiction....
Thanks for this thought provoking entry. Wish I had a cool group to study with as well. I have Lilith in Sagg in the 7th opposing Saturn in the first. Have to think about it now. Guess my partners "owns" my Lilith.
ReplyDeleteI have Lillith in 7th Cancer decendant a few degrees from my venus. Am I a ladykiller? Mind boggles, no wonder I'm single!
ReplyDeleteThis is terrific - Lilith seems to be appearing everywhere at the moment, it's very curious. Keeps turning up in readings and mundane charts....
ReplyDeleteI started getting really interested in her when I was studying secondary progressions - I noticed her very active on the angles during certain major events in my life, and began to glimpse an understanding of how she operates (in my own life) that way. Still very mysterious though.
@Opal - that opens up a whole realm of possibilities....
ReplyDeleteKaz - mine is in a similar place to yours & so is my partner's - go figure
I am a writer and I have Lilith in the 7th in Virgo. So I guess that works :) Thank you for this excellent article!
ReplyDeletedoesn't it just!
DeleteThanks very much for these insights. My Claytons boyfriend has only one exact conjunction in his chart, Lilith conj N.N. I really haven't been able to get my head around this.
ReplyDeleteLink - Are you Lilith?
ReplyDeleteMan, methinks I must be Lilith personified! But I'm not the only one in his life and seriously doubt I'll be the last.
DeleteOoh let's see:
ReplyDeleteLilith @ 0 Capricorn.
Square Eros @ 0 Libra.
Sexile Jupiter @ 0 Scorpio.
Quincunx Venus @ 1 Gemini.
Conjunct Juno @ 1 Capricorn.
Maybe I should just go and do erotic fiction-writing :D
P - you go girl
ReplyDeleteLilith conj S Node in 1st House, exactly sextile Moon in Libra. Whilst I have always loved reading mysteries/macabre stories, I've no interest in writing it. Found the tv series "Wire in the Blood" on DVD and loved it!
ReplyDeleteThanks for some clarification on this whole Lilith business . . . simple is always better IMO. LOL
diane~
P - or run a highly profitable bawdy house.. where's Vesta? ;)
ReplyDeleteMy Lilith is at 2deg Pisces in my 11th. Chart ruler Venus is slighty below Lilith in that house & sign.
Lilith trines Jupiter in Gemini (magnify my outré outbursts, much?) and sextiles my 12th-house Sun in Aries (oomph, when I'm not looking).
Squares my cozy NN in Taurus @2nd -- oh well, that was probably inevitable.
Explains a lot, actually. I guess it's time to embrace my inner wildness and just get out there and use it. But not bring it home, nor take it as a goal in itself; wildness and emotional, creative passion as a means, not the end. I have certainly used my intensity as a way to motivate others. Maybe I was onto something.
For the record, Blogger still behaves just as badly on the mobile, and has ported some of its whimsicality with comments to the fullscale version. Since it's the same host I use for mine, I'm taking notes :)
Heh. You got me researching now.... John Fowles (French Lieutenants Woman) Lilith conj Neptune in Leo opposite Venus in Aquarius.
ReplyDeleteooo - I've just realised I can reply specifically now - what fun! However, in this case, see my comment below....
DeletePerfect - I can see the French Liieutenant – outsider, scarlet woman - on the Cob at Lyme Regis ....
ReplyDeleteThis is great, I can relate to this description. Food for thought. What orb would you give to aspects with a bod like Lilith? For me she's in the 12th in Aquarius, 1 degree off Pallas. 4 degrees off Juno. Does that count as a conjunction?
ReplyDeleteMy Lilith is EXACTLY conjunct my moon in Sag and the first house. But the line-up is venus rising, north node conjunct venus next and then moon exactly conjunct Lilith - all within 23 degrees of the ascendant. Yet I haven't been able to figure out the moon/Lilith conjunction. I am very concerned about intimacy, but not without consideration to my reputation (sun/Saturn conjunct in 12th house Scorp). Used to be very self-conscious, but now am very self-accepting. Relationships? Most short-lived, passionate - no, won't tolerate deception or lying. Have been writing for about 3 years now, but nothing published. Nature of writing -- understanding the effects and depths of emotions from a spiritual perspective. Is that the moon conjunct Lilith?
ReplyDeleteI am not sure if spiritual is exactly a word I would use to describe Lilith.
DeleteYour chart description is really making me think very much about Diana, goddess of the hunt, running throughout the wild woods with her dogs at her heels.